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erock · Jul 19, 2006, 06:58 AM // 06:58

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Originally Posted by Zephyr Jackson

Dervish = Paladin in one profession :|

i dunno...it doesn't seem that way to me. the Dervish is likely geared to being best suited to tanking large mobs...hence all the emphasis on spinning attacks. I doubt in one-on-one they'd fare the same as a regular old wammo. Still wanna try one though. and the paragon...feels like a hybrid of warrior ranger and monk...very interesting. i'd like to try a D/A and a P/Rt...

Y.T. · Jul 19, 2006, 07:01 AM // 07:01

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Originally Posted by Lyphen

Another Elementalist model user? *sigh*

barely reskinned armor, same hair.... and female dervish looks just like rit and - surprise - wears almost identical armor....

just add more new content than factions,new armors, new pets, new skills for existing classes, new arenas - it'll be better than that....

markus_thom · Jul 19, 2006, 07:02 AM // 07:02

The skins exluding armour look like re used monk skins and elem skins.
People are right about that.

I hope they go into better detail when it comes to customisation or we are going to have alot of clones walking about, maybe some more interesting hair styles hmmmmm.

2 new classes is a good thing, lets hope they work well as secondaries and mix well as secondaries.

Captain Arne Is PRO · Jul 19, 2006, 07:40 AM // 07:40

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Originally Posted by Zephyr Jackson

Dervish = Paladin in one profession :|

My thoughts EXACTLY.

Thallandor · Jul 19, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

i just hope that the PvE wont be as dissappointing as factions and the new game system will be fun and interesting this time round.

sassoonssamson · Jul 19, 2006, 08:25 AM // 08:25

Wow the 2 professions looks cool

I except the following from Chapter 3 and nothing else

1) Stronger PVE content and storyline than Factions

2) Level Cap raised atleast to 25 ( Skills and Caps are okay but the Cap level has to go up)
If the character has conquered 2 continents how can his freaking cap be at 20 when all monsters are at 24 and above

3) When I buy a chapter and buy a key it does not change the limit for changing servers from america to europe and vice versa ,before i bought factions i had only 1 left after faction its still the same

Infinity^ · Jul 19, 2006, 08:32 AM // 08:32

ANet keep saying the level cap will NOT be raised, so please give it a rest.

levac · Jul 19, 2006, 08:47 AM // 08:47

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Originally Posted by sassoonssamson

2) Level Cap raised atleast to 25 ( Skills and Caps are okay but the Cap level has to go up)
If the character has conquered 2 continents how can his freaking cap be at 20 when all monsters are at 24 and above

I don't understand why you want it raised, raising it will only wreck all the other chapters. You'll have some people on the other games at lvl 20 and people who have all 3 games running with 25 etc. It would unbalance the game.

Also what would you get from it? Everyone would get to lvl 25 very quickly and it would then be absolutely no different. PVE wise would just mean instead of lvl 30 bosses, lvl 35... It just makes no sense. Although I'd like some higher level bosses.

levac · Jul 19, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49

I'm most intrigued by the palagon myself for the aoe shouts. Could work brilliantly with warder for defending an area.

Martian · Jul 19, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD

From the armors they've posted so far, it looks like I'll be able to make both of my new characters male

In the past I had to base my gender decision on my tolerance of ugly in the armors.

Now my only question is...what will the special event headpiece look like for the 24hour early access of Nightfall. [hopes]Will we get headpieces similar to the Egyptian god heads like Ra or whatever that god is with the slim dog head? (I think it's the god of death or something) O.o [/hopes]

Anubis, Demi-god of death and burial, has the head of a jackal, black skin and the body of a man, personally my favourite ancient deity

I absolutely cant wait for the new chapter and i cant believe its coming so fast! It's important to remember that factions actually took twice as long as all the other expansions will, because the two dev-team system is only being put into effect now, so we can expect all the chapters to be this close together in the future!

Duly Thankful · Jul 19, 2006, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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by Gaile Gray
For PvP play, don't most people have a PvP slot?

I am sure that they do if they are regular PvP'ers Gaile, but I would think that one of the concepts behind a PvP event is to lure more people from PvE into PvP. As a PvE player, I know that I don't have a PvP slot available and I will not be deleting one of my lvl 20 characters just to play a PvP event. Too much hard work gone into them! A temporary slot just for the event would be ideal, then people could try one of the new professions, play it to get an idea of how it works then delete it, and try the other one.

Hopefully that will be the case, and you will see lots of new people dipping a toe in the murky waters of PvP! Personally, I think that the Paragon sounds perfect for my Leroy tendencies.

When in doubt, charge! If it doesnt work - charge faster!

No doubt I will get flamed by the dedicated, but I think that PvP should be fun...

jesh · Jul 19, 2006, 09:21 AM // 09:21

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Originally Posted by Domino

Enchantments won't you you any good when mobs spam enchant removal like nobody's business.

Warriors are the only tanks, bottom line. I think Dervishes will suffer the same hate as Assassins do.

Hopefully some of these tanking assassins will delete their characters, and make Dervishes... so the decent assassins can start the slow process of rebuilding our reputation.

I would laugh if the new chapter banned all chinese IPs and had no mesmers in the mobs. That would sure appeal to the masses, wouldn't it? Of course when everyone had their fill of 20/20 sundering mods and +30hp upgrades, they'd leave. lol

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Armor of Earth is a far cry form what they could do here...Remember you DONT KNOW THE CLASSES SKILLS.

Read my above post also.

How does it matter what kind of enchant it is? It will still get stripped.

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Originally Posted by Lt.Crumpet

ok this is great. just plain great. finnally i get a class that yells at my teammates with SKILLS, not just my voice on TS!! takes half the burden off me already.

oh ya, and im thinkin dervish/assassin.....tele in, turn into a god, kill stuff, nuf said.

I'm betting that it will be something like Primal Rage.. forget about skills. And it'll be an elite enchantment. Or even better, an elite hex that only works on said foe. I'm feeling optimistic this morning, can you tell?

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Originally Posted by Cresint

I'm almost tempted to say that the males look better than the females. Never thought that would happen

Agree on this one. The females look even more boring than the males..

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Originally Posted by actionjack

I like their look... but the description sound very boring.. feel like just another clone of exisiting class combo (Paragon a shouting Monk with range weapon and Dervish a Elm/War with lots AoE). A.net could really do better.

Well.. of couse all have to wait for the test play to tell... but maybe I will save yet another $50 bucks.

Arena Net should hire you, and let you release all your concept classes in the expansion. I wonder what people would think about THAT.

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Originally Posted by lyra_song

This is because people are not playing the class as its supposed to be played. They are getting killed and giving assassins a bad name. Its not the class' fault that a good lot of players are playing like fools -.o

If the Dervish and the Paragon become hated classes, it will most likely be for the same reason.

Players who cant play.

I thought it was because the class is GIMPED in PvE to begin with. The very nature of relying on critical hits for energy and damage against high level mobs is a bit absurd. Critical hits need to be changed, (at least for assassins), before I'd consider making one for a PvE character.

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Originally Posted by The Shadow

As an older player, I'm concerned...

I've been playing Propheicies campaign since mid-December.

I bought factions about a month after it was released.

I don't get all that much time to play (about 10 hours a week) due to my other responsibilities (job/wife/kids/etc.)

I have so many more fond memories of Prophecies than I ever will have of Factions. Factions seems to have been rushed, the character classes of Rit and 'Sin not truly fully developed (can you say no hand-to-hand combat with the 'Sin?). No replayable high-end farming areas such as ToPK or SF. I don't accept elite missions as those; they take quite a while to do successfully and require a ferry to get to. Also, when Factions came out, it was extremely buggy...

/agree wholeheartedly.

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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD

Pictured above: A sweatshop full of Turkish Whirling Dervishes warm up their spins before they head out to farm Trolls for ebay gold.

lmao

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Originally Posted by Retribution X

I think that the new class, the "Paragon" is gonna be an awsome play.

I mean, Another way to play my favorite class! the monk!

YAY! Someone who thinks like me! =D

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Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD

I figure by Chapter 4 we'll all just be Super Saiyajins. Once you ascend 4 times you get the ability to go into beserk mode where you crush your foe with a flurry of long, drawn out super dialogue.

At least he has a sense of humor.

And please don't tell me I have to do the cu...er... ear ring swapping thing to bond with some perv.

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Originally Posted by victo bei

.now warriors just got a lot SUCKER,

Lolipops? Yumm...

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Originally Posted by DFrost

I hope ANet doesn't continue putting locked gates in the next chapter, the african theme provides many nice possibilities for wide, open PvE landscapes that are worthy of exploring. The classes also seem interesting (IMO better than Factions chars when the info was released), so I think the PvE portion has lots of potential, let's just hope it manifests itself.

YESSS. I'm glad someone else wrote this, let's hope Anet reads it. Now that would make me cu.... er.. wet myself.

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

That's ok slots will be available before Nightfalls comes out.

Because you say so?

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid

If they are anything like Sin/Rits I'm going to be disappointed.

Sin/Rits have 1 bar that you can play in PvP and really no other choices. These classes seem more diverse than Sin/Rits so we'll see.

Yeah, and so does mesmer. Who needs anything but Surge Builds. Oh yeah, and warrior too. I mean what could be better than a shock axe?

That's the REASON they're putting more classes into the game, so there aren't so many of these retarded vanilla builds.

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Originally Posted by Rikimaru

Yeah, sadly, I might be bailing out on this game when NWN2 comes out. Making your own weapon and character models FTW!
So I wouldn't be at all suprised to find out that people really are leaving.

GW would have an infinite player base if people could make their own items and armor like that. And if there was some way you could get Inuyasha naked in there, there'd be twice as many girls playing as guys.

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Originally Posted by Paperfly

Initial thoughts on balance: Dervishae for PVE, Paragons for PVP. Ideally, each class will have one of their skill trees be more useful in the other area (the Water Magic of Dervish-land, say).

If it turns out like this, I'll cry. Dervish for pve only? They'll end up just as screwed over as elementalists.

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

[[[A bit of history, since someone asked: Assassins originated in the Middle East around the time of the Crusades. They were a secret order of fanatics who used drugs (hashish) to get into a frenzy before going out and slaying people. The name is a derivative of hashish, I think.]]]

No offense, but have you ever even used cannabis? I don't think anyone could get into a frenzy off of it.

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Originally Posted by Duly Thankful

I am sure that they do if they are regular PvP'ers Gaile, but I would think that one of the concepts behind a PvP event is to lure more people from PvE into PvP. As a PvE player, I know that I don't have a PvP slot available and I will not be deleting one of my lvl 20 characters just to play a PvP event. Too much hard work gone into them! A temporary slot just for the event would be ideal, then people could try one of the new professions, play it to get an idea of how it works then delete it, and try the other one.

I'm in the same boat. Except I have 6 PvE characters, and I'd hate to delete one...

markus_thom · Jul 19, 2006, 09:32 AM // 09:32

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Originally Posted by erock

i dunno...it doesn't seem that way to me. the Dervish is likely geared to being best suited to tanking large mobs...hence all the emphasis on spinning attacks. I doubt in one-on-one they'd fare the same as a regular old wammo. Still wanna try one though. and the paragon...feels like a hybrid of warrior ranger and monk...very interesting. i'd like to try a D/A and a P/Rt...

If thats the case they are going to be devastating in pve.

Traveller · Jul 19, 2006, 09:43 AM // 09:43

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I will definitely ask about the slots for the PvP Event, and how you'll be able to make the new characters. For PvP play, don't most people have a PvP slot? Anyway, I will ask about whether temporary slots will be offered.

Hey Gaile,

many of us who don't regularly do PvP have all our slots filled out, but would nonetheless like to try out the new professions as well, so one extra slot during the preview would be a nice addition.

King Kong · Jul 19, 2006, 09:52 AM // 09:52

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

For PvP play, don't most people have a PvP slot?

Nope!

Way more people play PvE IMO

Egon · Jul 19, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53

D'oh, 28th of July? I'm in France that week. O well, hopefully we'll get a PvE-weekend as well.

led-zep · Jul 19, 2006, 10:23 AM // 10:23

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Originally Posted by shadowfell

Actually, yah... a lot of people have left, a lot of my friends are leaving. Not a "thats it, im quitting gw" and they're back in two weeks, really really left.

i know 4 people who have left gw for good too, even uninstalled from their pc's.
the novelty of gw wears thinner with every nerf.

gw = fanciest chatroom on the internet

antoninus · Jul 19, 2006, 10:29 AM // 10:29

both professions look and sound great =D i wonder when theyll make a prof that can turn to animals.. Druid lol i wana turn into a hydra ><

Neriandal Freit · Jul 19, 2006, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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Originally Posted by led-zep

i know 4 people who have left gw for good too, even uninstalled from their pc's.
the novelty of gw wears thinner with every nerf.

gw = fanciest chatroom on the internet

No, they're not so much 'nerfs' as they are restradgeizing to keep you on your feet. And for the most pat, no one likes that besides the true players (me), who adjust as needed to keep on my feet. Everyone would rathe just say "Down big scary monster!" and say they played this easy game, when really it's meant to be a stradgey game as much as a role playing game.

makosi · Jul 19, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

:S

Am I the only one that thinks GW is becoming saturated with professions now? I'm gonna miss the 6 Prophecies Professions. I still can't get used to assassins and ritualists and now NCSoft are developing more weird classes that there really isn't any need for. After all, the Dervish is a wammo which there are way too many of now. Sorry to bring down the tone but I don't want any more classes >_<

I understand that Guild Wars is a product of a business and there's money to be made though.

Anyway I think my time to end my Guild Wars life is nearing - not in a 'zomg i'm gonna rage-quit way'. Its just that quantity is beginning to exceed quality.